I moved my store to e-crater. I also signed up for Google analytics, so I know for a fact that I have way more traffic to my store now than I ever had to my ebay store, and about 2/3 of those hits are coming directly from the Google and Yahoo search engines.

I joined OLA during the boycott. I have found it is not the place for me.

Etsy is a great place for all art and handmade items. They also have a "vintage" category where you can list vintage items of all sorts. There is also a category for listing supplies for arts/crafts.

I have found ebid ($49 for a lifetime membership, no other fees ever!) to be an interesting site.

I have started moving my listings to eBid.com, but will check out some of the others. I am letting all my customers know where I am going. I REALLY miss using Auctiva - please start supporting another site!!!!

anyone else having success at another site? Which one?? What are you selling??

I LOVE AUCTIVA!!--I came to these boards looking for another auction site supported by Auctiva. Looks like it is only eBay....what/when/where will Auctiva do when e goes down the tubes? I think it is near and I am trying to move my auctions to iOffer.com--looks like they have the most count...I am spoiled using Auctiva! ~Marla~

I signed up for 121bid, not many people there, but its free to list so can't hurt to try.

Also setting up my own website (which is a nightmare)

Auctiva is wasted on greedbay, still cannot be long now before CEO Jeff presents his standalone store

He should be able to muster buyers easily with Auctiva's name being well known and plastered around GreedBay.

That's the problem I have with other sites in the UK, few know of them

I am registered on Ewaey.com (odd name I know). I got in just in time to get a free lifetime membership (no fees ever) for just $1. I was going to start listing there but there seems to be very little traffic. A local guy that sells car parts had moved his listings there and has received no bids or questions in at least a couple months. I also checked out other ebay alternatives and there's also FAR fewer items and bidders than on ebay. I know, I know, but ebay is bad about this and that, yadda, yadda.

I have just started to sell on ebay semi-full time. I do agree the fees and no negative fb for buyers is silly. I don't understand it, even if they try to explain it. Some people say it will make sellers work even harder to please and keep away scam artists. I don't know but it seemed to work well. Even still, I feel the good outweighs the bad.

My feeling about all the ebay alternatives is they're, like Jeff said, nothing compared to ebay. There's little to no traffic on 98% of them. I wanted to see what items were being sold in "Home Audio" on Ewaey just recently. Out of the entire category only three items (yes, just 3) popped up. That is absurd if you ask me and just shows where the buyers and sellers really are and will stay regardless of the higher ups foolish decisions.

Also, like someone mentioned on another forum, some of these people are probably making good money just starting these websites. Like if they say free lifetime membership for the first 5000 registrars, with a one time $1 fee, they just made $5k and they can call it quits right there. Again, I'm not experienced enough to talk about this in depth, but these are my thoughts. Take them as you will.

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Hi Wes M, everyone knows GreedBay, very few know any others here in the UK, so my present view (as others writing here) is to spread sales over more sites.

Some things will have to stay on GreedBay because of that is where (at present) most buyers are. Elsewhere, for me in the UK I only list in the equivelent of BIN format, sales are slow but the costs are much lower. So cost effective.

It all really depends on what item types you sell, their values and the country you live in to what suits you best, it's an individuals decision based on an individuals business parameters.

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what/when/where will Auctiva do when e goes down the tubes?

eBay will never go down the tubes until a credible competitor arises. If that were to happen then we'd simply support both sites. I'm not at all worried.

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looks like they have the most count

It's not the size of the boat, it's the motion of the ocean. Or so the saying goes. Basically in this case I'm saying that a ton of listings don't matter, it's the buyers that count. Yahoo Auctions had a million+ items. Of course they were all garbage and there were few buyers. Probably because they went there and the site was loaded with crap because listing was cheap or free. So in my opinion a lot of low quality or overpriced items is actually worse than a site with fewer but higher quality items at more attractive prices.

eBay was lucky, they had that magic mix of the right items and prices from day 1. It was what mostly made them a success. Everyone else tries to come into the market and compete with them simply by having lower fees but they don't get the rest of the stuff that eBay did right.

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cannot be long now before CEO Jeff presents his standalone store

We should have a beta version in the next few months. If I give a date we'd probably just miss it. But hopefully before it starts getting cold outside, lol.

The features are nearly complete and we're working on integrating well with the Auctiva site and our inventory feature. As well as making sure it's easy to use for beginners but the experts can still find the power features. And things like tutorials and templates.

Thanks for the update CEO Jeff, that is good news

I just loved waking up to this news! I can hardly wait....waiting for the cold. M

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Originally posted by Auctiva Jeff:
Wow, I must have been in a bad mood last night. That was harsh.

If people keep moving all over the place and not the same place eBay has nothing to worry about.

Whats keeping auctiva from moving to the auction marketplace. You guys have the resouce and the listing tools. Or are you afread of getting booted from ebays aprovied 3rd party tools.

I can' understand why someone hasn't stood up and created a site. I would thro all my business somone elses way it they would try to push ebay out of the way. And im sure so would the majority would too.

I'm happy to say that the beta has begun and several customers are testing it out. If you didn't reply to the call for beta users in our News forum you likely missed out. Thanks to all those who are helping us test.

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Or are you afread of getting booted from ebays aprovied 3rd party tools.

I wouldn't put it past them to do that if we were to begin competing and became any sort of credible threat. I don't think they'd bother us though as long as our relative size remained small.

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I can' understand why someone hasn't stood up and created a site

A lot of people have, they all fail. Even Microsoft and Yahoo tried and failed. It's harder than it seems. Getting the sellers is the easier part, but still hard. Getting a constant stream of buyers is the difficult part.

What a rare event these days, good news

Thank YOU Auctiva Jeff. GOOD NEWS-----. I did not sign up b/c I felt I had toooo much to handle w/eBay changing policy keeping me on my toes. I am so looking forward to the announcement of "IT IS HERE!"

In the light of current events recent new members should be aware of this thread's contents

I disagree with Jeff. eBay Can go down the tubes.

That is the same thing that Atari thought when they were on top of the video game market. They lost it because they took their eyes off the ball.

I think eBay is taking their eyes off the ball. Problem is no one else yet has market share and that comes with advertising... but the more they screw up... they more opportunity someone else will have to step in. I am convinced it will happen eventually, and especially if they continue to make these radical changes too fast and alienate their entire base.

The video game console market is not at all like eBay. About the only similarity is that once you have sold a ton of consoles the game makers come and make a lot of games, which in turn helps you sell a lot of consoles to gamers that want to play all those newly made games. A big difference is that avid gamers demand ever increasing quality games which require new hardware. It's the battle therein over each new generation of consoles where market share is won and lost.

The difference here is nobody is demanding a new console and you the game makers are going to stay right here making games for eBay until a new better console comes along that has just as many game buyers on it as eBay has. Or at least enough to bother trying to make some sales on it. Which to date many have tried and all have failed.

Also I didn't say eBay will never go down the tubes, I said it won't go down the tubes until a credible competitor arises. Which there still isn't.

At this point it looks like we'll be opening up our store beta to more customers in late September. We've received feedback from about 40 of the 200 customers that participated in the first beta and are going to work to incorporate their feedback along with some other additions we wanted to make.

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CEO Jeff, are the Beta stores actively selling or simply restricted access test beds ?

First of all I am so looking forward to a AUCTIVA STORE...

Second of all--eBay "ain't what it useta be" and soon the masses will get the message. It is like comparing oranges to apples now...and it changed so quickly...to rotten apples.

The anology would be like going back to Nordstroms and finding clutter of WalMart stuff everywhere...looking around and thinking "they musta been bought out--I do not have to waste my time here" then leave and never return.

Many buyers will not discover until the winter months that they CAN NOT find "IT" on eBay and will discover new sites. For the sellers--(I am one, cut back my listings and know I need to shuffle fast--the end is coming and I can feel it. It is just so hard to end and start amew.

I like iOffer and like selling AND buying there. I going to start listing items at e-crater after my yard sale is over. It never hurts to put the old eggs in more than one basket, eh?