I didn't pay anything for turbo lister, and it doesn't cost me extra...I love Auctiva, it's great, especially because it's free, however it can be slow at times because it's web based (I'm assuming)...with Turbo Lister you create and edit listings offline and editing is VERY easy. What it doesn't have is free templates, you have to pay for listing designer, and you have to pay for extra pictures, just like on ebay. It does have a custom field for inventory item number which I like...I can't wait for Auctiva to have an Inventory section. Anyway, I guess I was hoping someone out there was using both Turbo Lister and Auctiva, or if you or anybody thinks that doesn't make sense to do at all. I finally found a template in Auctiva that I like so I was hoping to use that along with the Auctiva Insurance, but bulk list and edit using Turbo Lister.