Foxfyre, It is 11 here---still getting ready to turn in--why stay up and think that Auctiva is going to get better! I am like you--very disappointed, dishearted--,needed and prepared to take advantage of the special discount listings, etc. Auctiva doesn't seem to understand--and probably don't care--how this effect us! Personally, I am trying to build a business-sell my auctions listings, and add to my income--I am positive that many of you are on eBay for the same reason. I have found that to do eBay right that it is very hard work--and that it is not overnight success, so, this is just a real disappointment.