Well Shadeaux, looks like I will give FF a go as I really cannot take these turn around times, I have resorted to doing other things on another PC in parallel, trouble is I then forget to look back at the listing PC and it all takes even longer.
And if it don't work another drum beat needs to be started, hear the drums getting louder, are the natives getting noisier or worse, closer
Whoops not in the lounge now
edit - actually I'd better check IE6 is still dragging it's feet first otherwise trying FF prooves nothing.