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I have seen several posts taking about how much more eBay is charging, and people have done the numbers showing how much more fees will be for single Auctions. Has anyone done the numbers for how much will be saved on auctions that do not sell?

I am not sure what the regular thing is, but if you list say 30 items, and %50 sell (probably a high number?), while you will pay more for the 15 that did sell you paid much less to list the other 15.

Also with the changes does it make it easier to list more because it's cheaper? The more you have listed, the better chance you have to sell I would think.

Thoughts?
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Well I am new at this....

What is peoples average sell through? I have been scouring ebay and I see "See other sellers auctions" and I see a ton of auctions with no bids what so ever. What is considered a good sell through?

Are the new insertion prices low enough now to where you may be able to list 1.5-2x the amount of items you are currently listing?

Look, all I am saying is so far all of the argument has been this is bad bad bad! And you are right, if you are selling 90% + of your inventory it will be. But what is the magic number? Say you are moving %50 currently, and with the new changes you can list 30% more product than you were, thus possibly selling more.....

Just asking the question... Personally I would prefer them charge nothing =).
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Originally posted by kbalona:
My sell-through is 90%. But I'm not going to stop listing on eBay, not until I can't make money. As it is, I'm making good money, I just figure the fees are the price you pay for the traffic.


Take one week's worth of your listings that have recently closed. Calculate the fees on those, including the fees of the items that did not sell that week. Don't forget to include gallery or any other 'special feature fees' you used.

Now, recompute your fees on those same items under the new fee schedule. Don't forget to include fees of special features, and the fact that gallery is now free. Whatever that difference is, and I guarantee you it will be positive, are your new fees. Computer the percentage difference. Be alarmed.

No, the fees are the price you pay to be screwed over. There was no reason to raise the fees by so much.
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Originally posted by JeffS:
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Originally posted by kbalona:
My sell-through is 90%. But I'm not going to stop listing on eBay, not until I can't make money. As it is, I'm making good money, I just figure the fees are the price you pay for the traffic.


Take one week's worth of your listings that have recently closed. Calculate the fees on those, including the fees of the items that did not sell that week. Don't forget to include gallery or any other 'special feature fees' you used.

Now, recompute your fees on those same items under the new fee schedule. Don't forget to include fees of special features, and the fact that gallery is now free. Whatever that difference is, and I guarantee you it will be positive, are your new fees. Computer the percentage difference. Be alarmed.

No, the fees are the price you pay to be screwed over. There was no reason to raise the fees by so much.

Yup. You're right. It is positive. I'm going to pay all of $0.06 more per item. Do I care? No. When am I going to care? When either of these two things happen: 1) When I stop profiting OR 2) when there's a viable alternative.
All auctions should sell if you run them properly. The only auctions that don't sell are the ones with their reserve bids set to high.

IMPO any auction with a reserve bid isn't really an auction at all and should have been listed as a buy it now. True auctions have an opening bid with no reserves.
Reserves are for people who don't know their Item, the market, or are just plain scared they might lose money.

Some of the biggest profits I have ever had from ebay was on auction items starting at .99 cents and No reserve. A $32.95 dollar Item "my cost" ends up selling for $1,300.00+ Now that's what I call Profit. Wink
If anyone is interested in what that item was I will share that info with you, It was a United States Mint bag containing 100 1999-D Delaware State quarters.

The fact still remains EBAY has gotten way to greedy for their own good.

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Originally posted by kbalona:
Yup. You're right. It is positive. I'm going to pay all of $0.06 more per item. Do I care? No. When am I going to care? When either of these two things happen: 1) When I stop profiting OR 2) when there's a viable alternative.


As I said, you're millage may vary. My fees are going up an average of 35%. I find it very hard to believe your per item fees are only going to increase by 6 cents.
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Originally posted by JeffS:
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Originally posted by kbalona:
Yup. You're right. It is positive. I'm going to pay all of $0.06 more per item. Do I care? No. When am I going to care? When either of these two things happen: 1) When I stop profiting OR 2) when there's a viable alternative.


As I said, you're millage may vary. My fees are going up an average of 35%. I find it very hard to believe your per item fees are only going to increase by 6 cents.


Regarding what dsouth touches on, I am a firm believer in .99, no reserve auctions. I've been able to cut listing fees back like that. 99% of my items are listed at .99, with no reserve. (And I never list without Gallery). I've done tests, I tried selling an item with a $15 reserve, and I even stated in the auction that the reserve is $15. It didn't sell. I relisted it, .99 no reserve. It sold for $20.
I think the key there is that you need to get bidders on your item. Once someone has placed a high bid, he becomes determined to win that item, even if it means placing a higher bid when he gets outbid.
I don't see how your numbers add up though. Take this example:

An item starts at 99 cents and sells for $25.00
Listing fee was 20 cents and final value fee was $1.31 for a
total fee of $1.51
Listing fee now is 15 cents and final value fee is $2.19 for a
total fee of $2.34 for a price increase of 55%

The difference between $1.51 and $2.34 is not 6 cents.
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Originally posted by JeffS:
I don't see how your numbers add up though. Take this example:

An item starts at 99 cents and sells for $25.00
Listing fee was 20 cents and final value fee was $1.31 for a
total fee of $1.51
Listing fee now is 15 cents and final value fee is $2.19 for a
total fee of $2.34 for a price increase of 55%

The difference between $1.51 and $2.34 is not 6 cents.


I used this calculator:
http://www.auctionbytes.com/cab/pages/feecalc

My average ending price per item is $13.25. I use gallery everytime, and I think that's what really helps to off-set the new fee increase. If I wasn't used to using Gallery, then I would have a fee increase of 46.2%.

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