Reply to PosterChilf who started by saying... ">>DON'T STOP SELLING ON EBAY<<
Use them to your benefit instead.
Create a free web store at a site like eCrater or get your own domain.
Stock that store with everything you've got.
Sell low $$$ items at ebay."
FAIL! VERY WRONG!
How are you supposed to sell anything when no one can find you? What you are saying is for everyone to spend money on listing fees we'll never see again. You MUST be in bed with eBay.
I spent the last 3 weeks on eBay spending more & more & working countless hours to do everything possible just to get my money back I spent on listings. I lost about $300 in listing fees.
You can't sell what nobody ever sees.
Get your head out of eBay's tushie & maybe you'll understand what people are saying here.
Eh hem.... This thread is for responding to the article "What's Ahead for eBay...and You?". The article was GREAT... and only a year overdue.
When I started saying these same things a long time ago I was yelled at & told how small minded I was not to reinvent my entire business (as if I have a money tree growing in my backyard just for such a SPECIAL occassion). I tried to bring these same points up on this forum & on Ebay forums. I was told how completely unintelligent I was.
NOW... Auctiva themselves has several articles finally facing the situation square on & telling it like it is rather than the old head in the sand routine it stuck by for so long. Too bad no one had the courage & tenacity to stand up & say these things when we still had a snowballs chance in perdition to change them.
The only advice I have for anyone who is still desperately clinging to the last tiny thread of hope that eBay gives a rat's patooty about sellers: Don't hold your breath. Although there is something very satisfying to me now a year later to hear the chortles of the eBay bliss ninnies stifled with shock over how their loyalty means nothing & they were not immune to eBaytrayal for all the waving of pom poms in my face during the months I was crying myself to sleep because the dream of my lifetime had been destroyed in one day by eBay.
I have little sympathy for anyone who didn't join us last May during the walk out. If everyone had listened to the many warnings of the fallen rather than treating them like losers because your store stayed profitable while eBay axed their stores... Then none of this would be happening now. We would have had the clout to teach eBay a lesson, brought them to heel & either we'd have the old eBay back or at least we'd all be mutually satisfied by now at hearing their notice of bankruptcy on national news. But NO!
What the guy in the article completely avoids telling us is how he & others like him sold us all down the river by listening to the eBay anthem "reinvent yourselves" and marched along like sheep while the little guys with small unique stores were brutally trounced beneath their feet. I've got two words for eBay as they slowly fall apart & everyone curses them...
REINVENT YOURSELVES
When I started saying these same things a long time ago I was yelled at & told how small minded I was not to reinvent my entire business (as if I have a money tree growing in my backyard just for such a SPECIAL occassion). I tried to bring these same points up on this forum & on Ebay forums. I was told how completely unintelligent I was.
NOW... Auctiva themselves has several articles finally facing the situation square on & telling it like it is rather than the old head in the sand routine it stuck by for so long. Too bad no one had the courage & tenacity to stand up & say these things when we still had a snowballs chance in perdition to change them.
The only advice I have for anyone who is still desperately clinging to the last tiny thread of hope that eBay gives a rat's patooty about sellers: Don't hold your breath. Although there is something very satisfying to me now a year later to hear the chortles of the eBay bliss ninnies stifled with shock over how their loyalty means nothing & they were not immune to eBaytrayal for all the waving of pom poms in my face during the months I was crying myself to sleep because the dream of my lifetime had been destroyed in one day by eBay.
I have little sympathy for anyone who didn't join us last May during the walk out. If everyone had listened to the many warnings of the fallen rather than treating them like losers because your store stayed profitable while eBay axed their stores... Then none of this would be happening now. We would have had the clout to teach eBay a lesson, brought them to heel & either we'd have the old eBay back or at least we'd all be mutually satisfied by now at hearing their notice of bankruptcy on national news. But NO!
What the guy in the article completely avoids telling us is how he & others like him sold us all down the river by listening to the eBay anthem "reinvent yourselves" and marched along like sheep while the little guys with small unique stores were brutally trounced beneath their feet. I've got two words for eBay as they slowly fall apart & everyone curses them...
REINVENT YOURSELVES
I hate the recent changes that Ebay made for sellers. I don't sell alot on Ebay, but I did make a little money. I enjoy reading books and when I was finished them, I would list them on Ebay. With their new policies concerning payment options, I feel that I can no longer list them. I list them really cheap so that other people could enjoy them as much as I did. I can't make ANY money using paypal because of all the fees I would be charged. Are they trying to get rid of all the small sellers like me? Also, not being able to leave negative feedback for a buyer that DOESN'T pay for an item. Where is that fair? I haven't listed on Ebay for awhile and I also HAVEN'T bought anything in quite awhile. I haven't even visited the site in awhile. BRING BACK THE OLD EBAY, SO THAT EVERYONE CAN USE THE SITE!
Again everyone,
is there another auction site out there that rivals Ebay with lesser fees and more seller friendly policies?? I tried ebid.com yesterday and don't see it as a user friendly site but it has a ton of potential. Perhaps we should be working with sites like Ebid and make voices known to them as well that there is a vacuum here that needs to be filled. This is a golden opportunity for a site like Ebid to step up and become the old Ebay. If there is another site out of the hundreds out there that can come close to the old Ebay model and user friendly navigation without all of their bull sh**t, please let me and all of us in on it. I am done with the Ebay politics and want to move on as I am sure all of you do as well.
Thanks,
is there another auction site out there that rivals Ebay with lesser fees and more seller friendly policies?? I tried ebid.com yesterday and don't see it as a user friendly site but it has a ton of potential. Perhaps we should be working with sites like Ebid and make voices known to them as well that there is a vacuum here that needs to be filled. This is a golden opportunity for a site like Ebid to step up and become the old Ebay. If there is another site out of the hundreds out there that can come close to the old Ebay model and user friendly navigation without all of their bull sh**t, please let me and all of us in on it. I am done with the Ebay politics and want to move on as I am sure all of you do as well.
Thanks,
Sorry, It is Ebid.net NOT Ebid.com as I just stated.
quote:You can't sell what nobody ever sees.
Chelsea,
Find something you can sell at cost that sells well at ebay.
99 cent items sold at cost will be found. The idea isn't to make money at ebay, it's to find customers.
If you sell an item at cost at ebay; you get a future customer at your website as a free bonus.
Simple Example:
Sell a toothbrush for 99 cents with free shipping with an auction ending every 8 hours.
When you ship the item, email the buyer telling them it shipped and also tell them you sell toothpaste and a 100 other tooth care items at your website.
Give them a link and maybe a coupon or something for 20% off their first purchase from your website.
Add the buyer to your address book for future advertising email about your website.
You made no money selling that toothbrush at ebay, but every month you will have ~90 new potential customers for your website.
~1100 new customers every year.
If you sell stuff people want and you're customers are satisfied, they'll tell others.
So every year you could easily add 5000 new potential customers to your website just from this simple example.
Add in Google and Yahoo advertising and that number could double, triple or more in size.
It works, you just need to understand how as I just explained.
It's not an overnight solution; it takes time to build any business.
Buy.com is so successfull at driving customers away from ebay that it's actually starting to show up in ebays profit margin.
Ebay blames the economy; but they're a ship of fools in serious denial.
Billn,
You don't believe3 Ebay would take a bribe (ie: sellers buying their way out of DSR's)?
Don't kid me. They are already taking every high dollar avenue they can. That article may be a spoof, but I would bet you dollars to doughnuts that much of it will come true in the next few years.
Ebay doesn't realize it has built people's businesses, only to tear them apart piece by piece. They have literally ruined some people's lives.
Just like the California tax system, you can't keep "taking" from people who have been abused by the gov't without an eventual collase of the system. People are fleeing California in droves since they decided that raising taxes was a better idea than lowering them. The legislators think they know better than the people they represent and won't even listen to them when the majority is overwhelming! People are fleeing Ebay in the same way, because Ebay knows better than the peons who sell there (and pay their salaries too!).
It's such an interesting parallel.
Some other company will come along sooner or later. Right now, ebay still has name recognition, but even comanies like Microsoft and IBM went by the wayside sooner or later.
Ebay is a dinosaur.
You don't believe3 Ebay would take a bribe (ie: sellers buying their way out of DSR's)?
Don't kid me. They are already taking every high dollar avenue they can. That article may be a spoof, but I would bet you dollars to doughnuts that much of it will come true in the next few years.
Ebay doesn't realize it has built people's businesses, only to tear them apart piece by piece. They have literally ruined some people's lives.
Just like the California tax system, you can't keep "taking" from people who have been abused by the gov't without an eventual collase of the system. People are fleeing California in droves since they decided that raising taxes was a better idea than lowering them. The legislators think they know better than the people they represent and won't even listen to them when the majority is overwhelming! People are fleeing Ebay in the same way, because Ebay knows better than the peons who sell there (and pay their salaries too!).
It's such an interesting parallel.
Some other company will come along sooner or later. Right now, ebay still has name recognition, but even comanies like Microsoft and IBM went by the wayside sooner or later.
Ebay is a dinosaur.
quote:Originally posted by connieandkens*vintagememories:
I have quit selling on eBay until they go back to the way they were.(I have been on eBay for over 9 years with over 2900 (100%) feedback) They have turned against the sellers, made us their enemies, I had a nightmare experience on PayPal, a buyer turned me in for a bogus SNAD, he got his money back plus a brand new item and eBay or PayPal would not listen to me. I was scammed as a seller, I have never felt so betrayed in my life! After that, I closed my PayPal account and therefore, unable to sell on eBay because of their "PayPal Only" payments. I will never use electronic payments again, I don't want to use my bank account on these sites. eBay has destroyed my business and I hope they see what they are doing to their business and others as well. Per the eBay forums, there are hundreds of sellers that have been scammed by buyers and PayPal, I don't understand how PayPal stays in business, they are so corrupt, it's unbelievable, really.
I need somewhere to move all my listing to.. I have over 150+! HELP! Will someone please step up and make a ebay-like site that is easy to use and stuff.. all the other sites stink as far as being seller user-friendly goes. Takes me forever to list on them!!
Christel
Christel
Boy I sure wish some of the idiots at ebay would take five minutes to either come read these or at least offer all of us a way to tell them. I too have been a long term seller on ebay. i began in their first year. i have been screwed by them in too many instances to even name them all. I have stopped selling started selling over and over. However recently I received a phone call from them. A real person on the phone telling me they wanted to get my back and how they were listining to the customers again. So i got a couple hundred items ready to post and guess what? they wont let me post them cause now they are forcing you to use pay pal so they can make even more money. Unfortunately for a lot of people they control the online auction market for now. But Its only a matter of time before all of us just say THEY ARE NoT WORTH THE EFFORT ANYMORE. boy that felt good.
I hung up my guns at eBay Oct 20th. 2008 when they decided to force PayPal. Personally I think they are breaking laws with their control over the seller’s money. I think they need another 50 or so rules just to make it harder to list on eBay! So I have moved my auctions over to www.Auctions8.com. Wonder if Auctiva would want to link to it for listing things for its client base? Nice place to list and none of the ridiculous mind games and money control rules making you go crazy just to list an item, and close a transaction. Ebay has boxed themselves in a corner over the PayPal mandate and their greed for more of the seller’s money in PayPal fees and higher closing fees. We have plenty of X-eBayers at Auctions8 already, and growing daily. Come on over to Autions8 and join up, we are looking for good Sellers and buyers, who want to enjoy online auctions again. No Listing Fee No closing Fee, just a monthly 5.00 charge to list and sell. 3.00 a month for a store if you want one. All forms of payments are allowed and yes MO's and Personal Checks. Even PayPal if you are a glutton for punishment. LOL.
Wall Street Journal – JD does an about Face! JD is failing we all know that, his ideas at going all Big Box New Merchandise has flopped. I think he sees the writing on the wall. He is admitting that he screwed up here and is going back to the flea market image. Only thing is SNAD will soar now, along with all the CC charge backs.
http://online.wsj.com/article/...679413477397787.html
But he goes on to reinforce that eBay will Concentrate on PayPal as their money maker, so he has not learned much. So get your pockets ready people if you continue to march to JD's piper tune.
http://online.wsj.com/article/...679413477397787.html
I loved using Auctiva to interface to Ebay. Good system on this side Jeff.. Thanks!
Steve
Wall Street Journal – JD does an about Face! JD is failing we all know that, his ideas at going all Big Box New Merchandise has flopped. I think he sees the writing on the wall. He is admitting that he screwed up here and is going back to the flea market image. Only thing is SNAD will soar now, along with all the CC charge backs.
http://online.wsj.com/article/...679413477397787.html
But he goes on to reinforce that eBay will Concentrate on PayPal as their money maker, so he has not learned much. So get your pockets ready people if you continue to march to JD's piper tune.
http://online.wsj.com/article/...679413477397787.html
I loved using Auctiva to interface to Ebay. Good system on this side Jeff.. Thanks!
Steve
quote:Originally posted by AuctivaEditor2:
You can read "What's Ahead for eBay and You?" here. Reply to this message to discuss it.
You have got to be kidding??? Then again, nothing should surprize us about eBAy, unless it is that they should start caring about their sellers. That would be a major surprize! If these policies actually go into effect, I am definitely out of there! Do you think that this could be coming from someone INSIDE of eBAy, that is disgruntled and planning on starting their own auction site? Because this information could cause alot of sellers to pull out of eBay now instead of waiting until the ball drops.
I am seriously wanting to leave eBay, as a seller I am tired of working real hard to have 100% feedback, and getting ripped by a couple of buyers, that have the backup 7 support of eBay and Paypal, when it is unjust. I am sick & tired of being victimized by the buyers first, then eBay & Paypal also.
I would love to know which auction sites are the best now, since I am looking to move out of eBay, but need to move to an affordable auction site that is getting plenty of exposure for sales. Can anyone out there help shed some light and give us frustrated eBAy sellers some good suggestions? Thanks.