eBay does it again - HUGE fee increase

hey, everyone, it's been awhile... hope everyone is doing well and had a nice holiday season!

now to the subject at hand.... FEEbay....


what a load of CRAP!!!! no wonder i hardly bother anymore. it is SOOOOOO not worth it!!!!

I was just coming to post the same info.

You beat me to it Jeff.

(waving hi to a QueenMab)

Best of luck everyone,
Donna

Good morning! so does anyone know of another selling website,that has reasonalbe rates and decent traffic? Im at a loss as to where else to go. Any help for us poor sellers? thank for any info. annie

I'm no longer going to sell. Just buy and leave negative fb for everyone kekekekekeke j/k

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Originally posted by daes_venge:
I'm no longer going to sell. Just buy and leave negative fb for everyone

Basically, you could. The seller can now do nothing about it.

It's like you're paying for Gallery even though it's "free". I say this every year. I hate this f'ing company but I have to use them because I have to make the money. They just keep taking more and more and more of it for no good reason. They suck.

AMEN JeffS!!
If I didn't have a ton of stock to unload this summer I sure wouldn't be back..except maybe as an occasional buyer

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decent traffic?

That is the biggest problem althougth effbay are making it easier for their competitors, they should mop up on this like political parties feeding like starving parahnas on each others misjudgements (had to pause for a few moments to find an alternative to swearing there )

Looking around recently some small sites are trying very hard and are very helpful but effbay is a global household name like Hoover, Kodak and Xerox to name a few.

More than 10x more listings than their nearest rivals (powersellersunite.com) also most other sites sell through rates are poor which puts up your costs and leaves stock sitting on shelves.

effbay knows this and are seeing how far they can stretch us, sooner or later the elastic will break but many sellers would go under before they do.

It is now even more blatantly obvious than before that sellers are the scum of effbay despite providing them with their money, no sellers, no customers no dollars, don't need to be a flyboy accountant to suss that one.

Hello everyone. I started my eBay business in June of last year. Mainly because it was faster than starting your own eCommerce site. So I accepted with all my heart all the fees that eBay had for their sellers. Yes, even PayPal. I figured when it was all said and done it would wash out and I'd still make a profit.

Well I just finished my taxes and yes.. I did make a profit. However... I looked at all the fees eBay/PayPal took and I have to say.. wow.. nice. I'm in the wrong business.

I guess the 5.25% to 8.75% FVF increase has me very concerened and with my eBay store going up from 10% to 12% and them getting rid of Fixed Price Listings in the .01-.99 range.. hmmmm a lot of stuff to be concerned about.

Buyers can only receive Positive Feedback. Well I knew this was coming. Didn't you all in the back of your mind? You see there is this thing in this country, and perhaps the world now.. it is a philosophy created by greed and the bottom line.. the philosophy states, "The Customer is ALWAYS Right". Perhaps the most asinine statement ever in my opinion. Well eBay is fully embracing it and gambling that the majority of its sellers will just bow to its power and go along with it and business as usual. They say its to protect the buyers and make them less afraid to buy stuff... MY GOD please. Stop treating buyers like they are babies and DEMAND that they act as professional as you are and you will raise the bar of communication and respect.

For one I will not bow to eBay and will not be intimidated by any buyer. I run my business my way. Respect your customers, give them the service they expect, but demand respect as well.

For one, I think I have decided that as of Feb. 20th, 2008, my company will no longer leave feedback to buyers...period. In protest to eBay. I will clearly state this in all my auctions at the top.

Hopefully, this will encourage the buyers to protest eBay with us. Surely they can not stand the wave of sellers and buyers complaining about it? or can they? Muwahahaha....

At any rate... I do hope an alternative to eBay comes... I'm looking for it.. and yes I know I can start my own eCommerce website.. but I'm not ready for that yet.

The one thing eBay will do with this new policy... you will see a lot less .99 cent listings of items with $24.99 S&H lmao.. those 'sellers' are going to have to rethink their business.

As for the rest of us.. we'll have to remain as smart as we are and kick in our creative side a bit.

I can' wait to share ideas.

What do you all think of my 'protest' idea listed above about feedback?

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For one, I think I have decided that as of Feb. 20th, 2008, my company will no longer leave feedback to buyers...period. In protest to eBay. I will clearly state this in all my auctions at the top.

What do you all think of my 'protest' idea listed above about feedback?

I think you're leaving yourself open to the newbie buyer to leave you a neutral or negative stating "Refuses to leave me feedback".

And then what are you going to do about it?

If enough people leave it as a negative, you are automatically kicked off. Suspended.

Yea, great idea.

Better idea: Don't leave the feedback, just don't advertise it.

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Originally posted by JeffS:

I think you're leaving yourself open to the newbie buyer to leave you a neutral or negative stating "Refuses to leave me feedback".

And then what are you going to do about it?

If enough people leave it as a negative, you are automatically kicked off. Suspended.

Yea, great idea.

Better idea: Don't leave the feedback, just don't advertise it.

I see your point Jeff. I guess I was just wanting a way to rally the 'buyer' base in the hopes they would send emails to eBay in some sort of protest for the sellers.. delusional? Perhaps. lol Of course, perhaps we are missing the bigger picture eBay has painted before us and we will see the light soon?

"I like to think there are always... possibilties". -Captain James T. Kirk

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Originally posted by Rock Bottom Galaxy:

The one thing eBay will do with this new policy... you will see a lot less .99 cent listings of items with $24.99 S&H lmao.. those 'sellers' are going to have to rethink their business.

Why is that? Did I miss something? I though it would lower the fees for those types.

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Originally posted by whatnot:

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Originally posted by Rock Bottom Galaxy:

The one thing eBay will do with this new policy... you will see a lot less .99 cent listings of items with $24.99 S&H lmao.. those 'sellers' are going to have to rethink their business.

Why is that? Did I miss something? I though it would lower the fees for those types.

I should have been more clear. There are some sellers who will post an item for .01-.99 cents and inflate the S&H fee to displace the FVF eBay charges. Since eBay does not take the fee % from the S&H, just the final price. So instead of selling an item for $9.99 + $5.95 S&H, some sellers do .99cents + $14.95 (or whatever).

With these new eBay policies, the buyer has a lot more power to adversely affect the sellers overall rating and thus change where the sellers items appear in the eBay listing when searched for. The more negative marks the less exposure eBay will give to their listings.

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just wanting a way to rally the 'buyer' base in the hopes they would send emails to eBay in some sort of protest for the sellers

Hi Timothy, what would be the incentive for a buyer to do this, they will only lose out when a large number of sellers walk out and the remaining hold them to ransom.

Meanwhile the buyers will have a deck of aces, effbay the bank and we (sellers) are open season for the minority group of auction vandals and thieves

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some sellers do .99cents + $14.95

and get hammered on DSR, no they have that one covered.

Just came from the DB and Answer Center over there...Use this link people, and tell them what you think (some folks over there have sent 10 emails and are still sending!)

http://pages.ebay.com/help/newtoebay/suggest.html

It certainly can't hurt..we deserve better than this. Actually even tho the fees are bad enough, the more I read about the ramifications of FB, the more I think THAT is what will be Ebay's downfall...

Ebay got slammed hard this morning, down almost 3%. Good, maybe it will make them come to their senses. They did the exact opposite of what they should have done. They traded short term profits at the expense of long term customers. You don't boost business by increasing prices, you do it by lowering them and remaining competitive in an increasingly global marketplace.

Hi Ms M, posted my suggestion, all polite and logical regarding equal feedback rights for sellers and buyers.

Not point in blasting them with expletives they will just disperse the electrons even quicker.

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Originally posted by member_8880:
Just came from the DB and Answer Center over there...Use this link people, and tell them what you think (some folks over there have sent 10 emails and are still sending!)

http://pages.ebay.com/help/newtoebay/suggest.html

It certainly can't hurt..we deserve better than this. Actually even tho the fees are bad enough, the more I read about the ramifications of FB, the more I think THAT is what will be Ebay's downfall...

I just sent mine in. I kept it simple and sweet. Let's hope we crash their mail server!! LOL well not really, but lets get it hot! Thanks Ms. M for the link.

I hope everyone takes 5 min to click on the link and send a very simple and professional protest.

What's the point? Do you think this is the first time there has been a rate increase or some other thing that upset sellers? I've been selling 11 years on eBay, and believe me, it isn't. There have been "boycotts" in the past (they worked real well), angry sellers, petitions, email campaigns, and so on. eBay doesn't care for your opinion - never did, never will. The emails will make no difference, not if there are a million of them or you crash the mail server. Decisions are made, and they ARE gonna stay. How would eBay look to investors if they backed down? Would you invest in them?

All these sellers who are posting in various comment boards, forums, etc, is just venting. nothing's going to change. "I'm leaving and never coming back!!!" yea, right. "This is the final straw". Sure, heard it before.

The ONLY fact is eBay is a greedy monopolistic bastard. There is no real competition. They can get away with anything, just like Microsoft did, until the Gov't pulled them down. But there's no competition here. Nobody to file. eBay does not care about you. They only care about Wall Street and their stockholders, just like any other public company. They exist to make money for their investors. Face it, the money comes from you, and they want more of it.