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eCrater - you get what you pay for...

C captbinghamtonMember
Heh heh heh...I knew that would stir up some people. The fact is, I can't stand eCrater's way of handling shipping charges, and no calculated shipping. Can you do combined shipments? At the very least, I don't see why we are given no freedom as to fonts and sizes, or even styles on our own product description pages. I can live without HTML , though I'd rather not. This feedback thing just muddies the water, too IMHO. Whatever became of the Dmitri that was so helpful and responsive that you all invited him onto SD's forum to keep everyone up to date? Is this another one of those "all I gotta do to wipe out the competition is give it away" kind of deals.

So far, the main advantage I can see to eCrater is it's ability to get you into search engines and the fact that customers don't have to be a member to purchase from you. But is the search engine stuff that hard to do from elsewhere?

Do any of you have any experience with other easy to use web-store sites that give you a little more freedom, and maybe have a little better options for calculating and combining freight (and insurance?) that don't cost an arm and a leg? Or maybe some software to set up a store on my own website that is simple enough for a dumb cluck like me to operate?

War,
C.B.
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C cavaleriesoldaatMember
Nice template. I built my own website as well, but I'm not selling from it yet. Waiting for a bunch of product orders to come in before I promote and sell from it. Mine is based loosely off of a template...but most of the work is my own. The complete thing is done, but I only have so much of it on the web. Ask me if you have problems...I'm a fair webmaster. (not a "master" yet)

View my site here if your interested
S suthrnjewlMember
quote:
Originally posted by Capt. Binghamton:
So far, the main advantage I can see to eCrater is it's ability to get you into search engines and the fact that customers don't have to be a member to purchase from you. But is the search engine stuff that hard to do from elsewhere?

Do any of you have any experience with other easy to use web-store sites that give you a little more freedom, and maybe have a little better options for calculating and combining freight (and insurance?) that don't cost an arm and a leg? Or maybe some software to set up a store on my own website that is simple enough for a dumb cluck like me to operate?

War,
C.B.

CB...onto some serious discussion on this subject.

You do have your own domain name, right?
<nudging you forward to purchase one>

Gimme a month. I've got some irons in the fire so to speak...to learn oscommerce. Once I learn, I can walk you through setting up your own store, not just linking it back to eBay or ecraters.

Peace,
Donna
C captbinghamtonMember
Thank you -- That would be real swell of you. Oh, and yeah, I think I still have a couple I keep renewing every year.

I used to have an anonymous one that I used to foment an uprising and wage psy-ops against the school superintendent in the next town south of here. I let it expire after they forced her to quit. And move away. Remind me to send you some excerpts someday. After the statute of limitations expires.

War,
CB
C captbinghamtonMember
One good tune deserves another... Smile

Bomb, bomb, bomb...bomb, bomb, Iran!
Bomb, bomb, bomb...bomb, bomb,
Oh Bomb Ira-a-an!
Let's take a sta-a-and,
Bomb Ira-a-an.
Well our country's got a feelin'
Really hit the ceilin', bomb Iran.
Bomb, bomb...bomb, bomb Iran.

Went to a mosque,
gonna throw some rocks.
Tell the Ayatollah...
"Gonna put you in a box!"

<refrain>
Bomb Iran. Bomb, bomb...bomb, bomb Iran.
Bomb, bomb...bomb, bomb Iran.
Well our country's got a feelin'
Really hit the ceilin', bomb Iran.
Bomb, bomb... bomb, bomb Iran.

Ol' Uncle Sam's
gettin' pretty hot.
Time to turn Iran
into a parking lot.

<refrain>

Call the volunteers;
call the bombadiers;
Call the financiers,
They better get their a** in gear and

<refrain>

Call on our allies,
to cut off their supplies,
Get our hands untied,
and bring em' back alive.

<refrain>

<solo> a-Bomb, bomb, bomb..bomb, bomb Iran.
<group> Bomb, bomb, bomb..bomb, bomb,
Bomb Ira-a-an!
Let's take a sta-a-and,
Bomb Ira-a-an.
Our people you been stealin'
Now it's time for keelin', bomb Iran.
Bomb, bomb...bomb, bomb Iran.

Bomb Ira-a-aan, Bomb Iran.
Bomb Ira-a-aan, Bomb Iran.
Bomb Ira-a-aan, Bomb Iran.
<to fade out>
**************

"I'll send you a daisy-cutter a day, girl"
The swollen,
GB Smile
S suthrnjewlMember
quote:
Originally posted by Capt. Binghamton:

"I'll send you a daisy-cutter a day, girl"
The swollen,
GB Smile

Send the Daisy Cutter Priority with Delivery Confirmation...puhleeeeeze!

Swollen?
<Smile>
Your ego perhaps...least that what your better half says. <wink>

War! huh-yeah
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing
Uh-huh

War! huh good God
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me

Anxiously awaiting my daisy cutter,
Donna
<big goofy grin>
C cavaleriesoldaatMember
Cool CB...Is that bomb Iran song original? I likes it....I likes it a lot...what can I say...I was infantry...I've got that destructive side.lol


Anyway, fyi, I've got a fair programming background, and I'm pretty good with Macromedia's Dreamweaver MX suite. (thats what I recommend for website development) I use a PayPal Cart integrated into my site called an "iCart" The only reason I'm not selling from my independant site yet is that I've been brokering deals with some of the largest software and hardware suppliers, and in-turn brokering financial support, hence, I don't have the raw quantity of product I want to launch a site of the caliper I'm trying to create....whew....mouthful!!!

Anyway, I'll answer questions as best I can, feel free to email me at: webmaster@appleharvestcomputing.com
C captbinghamtonMember
Actually, that song was recorded by Vince Vance and the Valiants in 1979, during the hostage crisis.

I may very well take you up on your offer of help. I can hold my own as far as HTML and CSS goes, however where I need the help is with scripting so I could have have a shopping cart like the PayPal cart, but with a simple interface for listing the items and linking to images, like eCrater. Something my wife could handle. Bulk listing would be a help, too.

Best regards,
CB
D debkwekMember
quote:
Gimme a month. I've got some irons in the fire so to speak...to learn oscommerce. Once I learn, I can walk you through setting up your own store, not just linking it back to eBay or ecraters.


Suthrnjewl

I would love to have my own website where I can have all my items for sale in one site that would be great and my dream! Right now i am spread out, my main website I have all my stores and auction on, I have had it for 2 years now, I just wish i could have my own website and thats it.

My website
S suthrnjewlMember
quote:
Originally posted by debkwek:
quote:
Gimme a month. I've got some irons in the fire so to speak...to learn oscommerce. Once I learn, I can walk you through setting up your own store, not just linking it back to eBay or ecraters.


Suthrnjewl

I would love to have my own website where I can have all my items for sale in one site that would be great and my dream! Right now i am spread out, my main website I have all my stores and auction on, I have had it for 2 years now, I just wish i could have my own website and thats it.

My website

Call me Donna!
<smile>
I'm watching someone else go through the pains of setting up her online store..I'm hoping to learn to do my own. The osmosis theory is not working and I'm still just as confused. But I'm watching and learning a tad bit at a time and trust that ironchick (Beth) will fill me in on steps after she learns.

I'm one of those types that has to have deailed instructions. If left on my own without a step by step instruction <sigh> It takes me forever to get something done. That's why I'm such a big fan of .pdf instruction booklets that come with new sites/software/etc.

Here's how I learn best....
Step 1
Enter information into Square 1-3
Step 2
Drag and drop such and such info into square a
Step 3
Right click here to copy shortcut and copy to square b
Step 4
fill in line 1-7

You see?
Does your brain work similarly? If so, then once I have learned at the feet of ironchick(beth) I'll help you out.

If you need more...then I might not be able to help you.

You joined us over at Auction Sellers Motivators Right? There's alot of familiar faces that sell that you know. We're kinda all going through growing pains together and it helps to band together for support.

It's not an all inclusive board..if you feel that you'd like to join us..c'mon!

Here's the link:
http://p2.forumforfree.com/auctionsellersm.html

Hold tight and I might understand this in a month!
Donna
D debkwekMember
quote:
I'm one of those types that has to have deailed instructions. If left on my own without a step by step instruction <sigh> It takes me forever to get something done. That's why I'm such a big fan of .pdf instruction booklets that come with new sites/software/etc.

Here's how I learn best....
Step 1
Enter information into Square 1-3
Step 2
Drag and drop such and such info into square a
Step 3
Right click here to copy shortcut and copy to square b
Step 4
fill in line 1-7

You see?
Does your brain work similarly? If so, then once I have learned at the feet of ironchick(beth) I'll help you out.



I am the same way, I have been looking around at all these websites and even bought a website creator, but i just donot know that much of html, I sure can use your help when you learn more that would be GREAT!! your the best!!
I found this site but really don't understand it? http://www.oscommerce.com/
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R rickbradfordMember
quote:
Originally posted by Suthrnjewl:
Here's how I learn best....
Step 1
Enter information into Square 1-3
Step 2
Drag and drop such and such info into square a
Step 3
Right click here to copy shortcut and copy to square b
Step 4
fill in line 1-7


Oh boy, then you must be having a heck of a time with OSCommerce! Maybe they've improved the documentation since when I tried to learn it a couple of years ago but I finally gave up.

I ended up using CubeCart, though, which I found to be much more user-friendly for non-programmers such as myself. It's also free, open source stuff and I've had a lot of good experience with their support forums. (I use Version 2.something, by the way, but they've got a newer one out now too.)
S suthrnjewlMember
quote:
Originally posted by Rick Bradford:
quote:
Originally posted by Suthrnjewl:
Here's how I learn best....
Step 1
Enter information into Square 1-3
Step 2
Drag and drop such and such info into square a
Step 3
Right click here to copy shortcut and copy to square b
Step 4
fill in line 1-7


Oh boy, then you must be having a heck of a time with OSCommerce! Maybe they've improved the documentation since when I tried to learn it a couple of years ago but I finally gave up.

I ended up using CubeCart, though, which I found to be much more user-friendly for non-programmers such as myself. It's also free, open source stuff and I've had a lot of good experience with their support forums. (I use Version 2.something, by the way, but they've got a newer one out now too.)

Good evening Rick,

You have NO idea how lost I am.
It's like someone is speaking a foreign language to me.
Let's say that language is...oh Spanish. I know a few of the words, water, taco, home, but I'm nowhere near able to understand a full sentence spoken to me. Well, I understand SSL and more, but putting it all together? I'm lost, just lost and getting frustrated.

I feel I may just have to find someone who can do the whole she-bang for me and pay them.

Cube Cart? I'll look into that.
Thanks for the tip..you might have saved me some money if I can figure it out.

Wish me luck,
Donna
S suthrnjewlMember
quote:
Originally posted by debkwek:
quote:
I'm one of those types that has to have deailed instructions. If left on my own without a step by step instruction <sigh> It takes me forever to get something done. That's why I'm such a big fan of .pdf instruction booklets that come with new sites/software/etc.

Here's how I learn best....
Step 1
Enter information into Square 1-3
Step 2
Drag and drop such and such info into square a
Step 3
Right click here to copy shortcut and copy to square b
Step 4
fill in line 1-7

You see?
Does your brain work similarly? If so, then once I have learned at the feet of ironchick(beth) I'll help you out.



I am the same way, I have been looking around at all these websites and even bought a website creator, but i just donot know that much of html, I sure can use your help when you learn more that would be GREAT!! your the best!!
I found this site but really don't understand it? http://www.oscommerce.com/

Well, at least I'm lost in good company!

Peace,
Donna
S suthrnjewlMember
quote:
Originally posted by cavaleriesoldaat:
Okay...tell me exactly what it is your trying to do and maybe I can help...

It's hard to word exactly what I'm trying to do, because I haven't done anything yet due to utter frustration.

Everytime I try, I don't understand the terms and begin to beat my pretty little head against the wall. I have the "kick off" site that leads to my ecraters. I do a fair amount of biz from that..but I'd like to be able to have a fully functioning website where I handle my orders and I don't have to have off-shoots to ecraters. (I plan on keeping my ecraters cuz I'm doing a nice little business via them)

I had thought about having one of the kids that my second son is friends with that are going into computer science come by and just say...Sure Mrs. L, I can do that for you for such and such amount. (or trade it out in home-cooked meals)

Thats bout it Cav!

Thanks for your question,
Donna
R rickbradfordMember
Hey, Donna, if you can afford their rates and you think they know what they're doing then hiring somebody to set up a store isn't a bad idea.

The only downside, of course, is when something goes wrong and needs to be fixed.

I did find CubeCart to be easier to deal with but there's still a learning curve and it wasn't without its problems. The biggest given about these open source carts, too, is that you <i>will</i> have to do some customization/playing with the code to get it the way you prefer it.

It's possible that there are commercial carts (for $$) that are super-user-friendly and have tons of options but I never could get any solid info when I was researching them.

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