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I am so nooobie that I don't even know anything about these other places to list....guess I better start collecting what yall are writing.
Looks like some have fees and some don't. I can't afford many more fees! Gol dang!
I have two tracks to follow, Jeff's and choo's, which shall I follow????? But then there's a spider....and someone with a rat in their freezer, Ms M, Ms S, TAZ and zeb with a poopy mess.....where am I??? is this a looking glass?
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Originally posted by ninth_wave:
It be a little runny, couldn't ya thicken er up a bit? My spindly lil' fly legs is a sinking into da spyder's brew. I dont wants ta drown in da sea of luv here.
You won't have to worry about your spindly legs if you stick with Zeb, you know a fly stuck on .......pooh! zebpooh!
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Originally posted by N:
I am so nooobie that I don't even know anything about these other places to list....guess I better start collecting what yall are writing.
Looks like some have fees and some don't. I can't afford many more fees! Gol dang!
I have two tracks to follow, Jeff's and choo's, which shall I follow????? But then there's a spider....and someone with a rat in their freezer, Ms M, Ms S, TAZ and zeb with a poopy mess.....where am I??? is this a looking glass?
Oh my, what else, errrr who else did I forget.....the fly! Spider and the fly, fly on the wall, on the fly, stuck on flies like a fly stuck on zeb.......
Great minds work in the same tracks......not Jeff's nor choos....but mes and yous.....
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Originally posted by ninth_wave:
The only way you can be saved is the way we badly misbehaved. Eight spyder legs around me you did wrap and we're still in trouble over that! WinkWink
Ewwww! In trouble with you I'll gladly stay. Don't worry sweet fly... I'll keep N away. WinkWink No, there won't be th' Zeb pooh for you. You belong in my spyder brew. Razz
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Originally posted by N:
You won't have to worry about your spindly legs if you stick with Zeb, you know a fly stuck on .......pooh! zebpooh!

I still got my eyes on dat Zeb dude, cuz I knows he got eyes for dem cookies I'sa layin claim to. My fly buds is still standin by, and ready ta start a buzzin youse knows where. Maybe he better get that arse covered up wit dem brown pantaloons o Miss S! Big Grin
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dem cookies I'sa layin claim to.

Yep, th' cookies fer you they be. Wanna share a truffle, or two... or three? Wink

Zeb, ya DO still have th' brown pants doncha? Watch out fer th' fly buds! They're comin' to getcha! Ya might hafta share them pants with N 'cause I'm aroundin' up my spyder friends. Big Grin
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In which case da spyder's brew, will only be to me from you.
Cookies, brownies 'n' spyder brew & now we got th' truffles too. WinkWink
Damm I missed you guys again??? Mad
(Layin it on a little thick aren't ya..LOL)
Don't even want to get the hose out, just glad to see you both posting again, we miss you!!

Miss S, that link was hilarious, thanks but I gotta tell ya NOBODY whacks me, I'M the one that does the wackin Big Grin And you BOTH deserve one for abandoning our thread *sniff* - Wet noodles are just fine! At least it's not a hammer Eek (Choo is so mean to me) Frown Love that avi ...how do you like my blinking eyes now? Good ole Zeb always comes through Smile I hope you didn't sign off already...I'll email ya Smile
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Originally posted by N:
Sharing brown pants that belong to a fly........
OK!!! Hero pants makes a diff.....but must they be shared at the same time????
Still I guess a fly is kinda small huh? Could be small enough to share with me personna which is??? OH yeah!!!! but it came with a warning about overalls, does that include brown hero pants???
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So you might wanna' consider the overall implications.

Is there a way to preview me post before I jump in? I can't tell what I got here......
So the dashing pooh horse comes in for a moment after a days rest, posts and gitty ups outta here.....the nerve.
I need to know how to make that turtle a bit smaller Zeb....now when you trot back here.....let me know......or choo will be after you again with the wet newspaper.....and it sounds like the cheeky thing could get kinky...I'd be careful if I were you...

PS gonna be scarce myself to day....have work to do, it is really hard to leave all this fun.
Ms blinkin' eyes.....did you look at your Crumb tree for me?
Hey Ya'll! Just popped in for a second. --- I've been *super* busy the last couple days. Every time I get back here it seems within a minute or two something else comes up and I have to take off again. Frown
I have noticed tho...that there hasn't been much happening here (lately). Guess the 'busy-fairy' has been hard at work! -- btw...whatever happened to Taz?? I miss that fuzzy little devil ! Frown Smile Best wishes to Shadeaux, Ninth, Missy, ChooChoo, N, --and actually Everyone in the community!! -- here's hoping ya'll are having a GREAT weekend. Spring is definitely Bustin'-out here!! -- Well I'm off yet again... gotta' birthday party to attend! Big Grin --zeb Cool
Good grief an over 24 hour gap occurred, but as they (whoever they are) say "it 'aint't over 'til the fat lady sings"

Oh yes Ms M how's this for verbal revenge for for snapping me on the loo.
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we're in the middle of another snowstorm (shudder) Will it ever end???

We have had the warmest Jaunary on record (hardly any frost, no snow, high single and moderate double figure temps deg C) followed by probably also the warmest February for a very long time. 2 weeks ago even went on a long walk in shirt sleeves and felt hot, the daytime temps were at least 12 to 13C although single figures at night for a few days. Razz

Bit cooler now but no snow for us this year !
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We have had the warmest Jaunary on record (hardly any frost, no snow, high single and moderate double figure temps deg C) followed by probably also the warmest February for a very long time. 2 weeks ago even went on a long walk in shirt sleeves and felt hot, the daytime temps were at least 12 to 13C although single figures at night for a few days

I HATE YOU CHOO (Yes I'm yelling, I'm SO jealous) Razz I'm freezing my buns off here ugh!
So what is it there, about 9AM? I thought you didn't get up til the crack of noon (Much like myself) Big Grin I was just on my way to dreamland, it's 3AM here. At least you're still with us...the 'us' being very small as of late. I have another pic of you I got when you weren't looking, as long as I can find it I'll post it tomorrow,,can't keep my eyes open now. And don't worry, it doesn't show any of your buff bod... Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin (Although you'd probably like that, hehehe)
Good morning Choo (and to anyone else who might happen to stop by)

I found this pic of you ..this was right after you saw your ebay invoice...



Warm & sunny huh? Well we have COLD & sunny..I think we only had sun for 3 days since November ... BRRRRR Frown

EDIT - I had a much funnier picture but you got lucky because I chickened out...it was a little too bizarre to post here Eek
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I also look that way when I try to sort out a certain equation and the answers come out all wrong namely, given :-

STR = number of items sold per number of item listed over a given period expressed as a ratio

PERIOD_FEE = fees for that period (whether insertion, FVF or subscription)

AVE_VALUE = Average sale price of item

PERIOD_WORTH = what the seller gets out of it during that period

QTY_LISTED = qty listed in that period

When considering other sites to sell on just in the UK (as 99% of current sales from greedbay sell in UK) I look at :-

PERIOD_WORTH = (STR x AVE_VALUE x QTY_LISTED) - PERIOD_FEE

Add into the pot that generally fees tend to be inversly proportional to STR.

Many places appear to have a very low PERIOD_WORTH much lower than greedbay, even negative as the traffic they seem to attract is minimal. I look at sellers registered there for months who have sold very little, despite being successful on greedbay where a link is available to have a look.

A further warning sign is that most auctions are not auctions, by that I mean most are the equivelent of BIN or Offer, you cannot run an effective auction if only one bidder turns up as the item goes at the starting price so most sellers go BIN.

Whichever way I look at this the only worthwhile option is to buy a domain and a hosted website and spend the remaining equivelent fee value on advertising as the level of advertising purchased by a lot of other sites is so minimal and it does not matter how flash the site is or how many sellers and active listings there are, no buyers, no sales.

I did not know there were so many wanabee sites in the UK until these storms started last year and so many links started appearing in various posts.

So might just as well do-it-myself (D-i-M Big Grin )

Off course greedBay know this so they can lay us over a barrel and use more than a wet noodle to whip us with, the biggest losers are all those folk who cannot take this step because it is tough enough for many folks to handle their PC safely on the interent without going it alone unless they can afford a lot of dosh to pay others for website design and maintenance.

So being postive (which is not my natural state because I usually come a cropper being positive) I see the present scenario on greedbay to be a real turning point for many in taking a business to the next level.

Ok apologies for being so off topic here ....


Big Grin ! elbissop sa noos sa ecivres lamronba gnimuseR

edit deleted inversly - ! ymmuD
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Wink ul-ul a saw taht dna taolb doog a yojne I peY

Choo, forgive my interjection.. I for one..very much appreciate your sharing on the UK alternatives including conclusions drawn from an evaluation of your approach in assessing them. Frankly, I believe your point of establishing an independent (and more controllable) merchant presence vis-a-vis a hosted site (or equivalent stratagem) is very well taken; .. and really the only sensible choice toward achieving long-term stability and survival. You are also absolutely correct in the observation that many are ill-equipped to take on such an endeavor, and they would undoubtedly suffer in the attempt. For those who can muster sufficient resources and apply them with the necessary savvy to successfully establish themselves, the prospects of meaningful profitability are in my view, ultimately much better. The key issue of course..is the question of what it means to be 'savvy' enough. Anyway..that's just my 2-cents worth. (btw.. thanks! I couldn't find the 'cropper' idiom anywhere, and I'm fully aware of your challenges in dealing with our 'american' idiomatic bs Wink )
Alright then! If there ain't no "funny-stuff" in them brownies (we'll take your word for it Shadeaux) ...then ChooChoo! ~ you're just gonna' have to 'cropper' for all this weird bass-ackwards kaeps-oohC going on! Missy's got a headache,.. and now I'm gettin' one, ....and the spelling-checker has gone 'bonkers'! Frown

Big Grin Mad Eek ! tluaf s'oohCoohC gnieb ot nwod sliob yletamitlu ssem siht lla yas I

p.s. well its about time ya' got yer fuzzy-arse back in here Taz! What happened?..start chew'n on the HDD again? Roll Eyes Wink
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Big Grin Eek !taht rof yad 'ht ni ylrae tib a tsuj ti t'nsi woN

Not too sure about that one! My workday starts at 11 PM nd ends at 7 AM! If I was going to have a few I would need to be finishing up right about now! Confused My system is so confused right now!
The new job is great and the benefits are out of this world (401 K match varies between $1.25 and $1.75 per dollar I contribute! They change it every quarter but never lower than $1.25 per $1), but swing shift BLOWS!
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p.s. well its about time ya' got yer fuzzy-arse back in here Taz! What happened?..start chew'n on the HDD again? Roll Eyes Wink


Well it is better than Neanderthalically chewin on da keyboard! Speakin O' Neanderthals has anyone heard anymore from that fool? For that matter the udder clown that were givin da Choo Meister a ruff time?
I really fell outta touch whilst the PC was befuddled! Had a big argument with the GF about downloading things and not virus scanning before opening them. But I checked out what she did and unless you are Uber-paranoid you would have never caught the problem. The zip file scanned fine and when you extracted it fooled the Virus Scanner into dropping off the screen. it popped up fer about 1 second and disappeared! Still no idea of what little insidious thing it was? It totally kept me from going online but did not corrupt my files? Luckily I was able to back up my recent work and do a fresh install and fix things.
System recovery would not even work!
Gotta buy another puter for the GF to play with so she does not moider mine again!
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Originally posted by TazFromPA:
Not too sure about that one! My workday starts at 11 PM nd ends at 7 AM! If I was going to have a few I would need to be finishing up right about now! Confused My system is so confused right now!

Hey Taz, been there more years than I care to remember. Actually was the second best job I ever had (like midnight accountingSmile) and left it to move to th' panhandle. First was carpentry which goes right with whackin' one with a hammer if'n they mess with me. Razz
So breakfast in th' evenin', brews in the a.m.!
Smile !em rof skroW

Wink !ti rof drow ym ekat nac ay ,beZ peY
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Big Grin Mad Eek ! tluaf s'oohCoohC gnieb ot nwod sliob yletamitlu ssem siht lla yas I

Big Grin !ti did oohC ...eerga I
Oh I missed everyone again Frown TAZ I was wondering where you were! I never would have guessed computer problems. Glad the new job is going good, so I'm just getting home from work when you're starting (I never did like working nights) Heck we'll never get to talk now...Great, now I'm gonna be stuck talking to Choo, he's usually the only one online the same time as I am (did I say that out loud??) Big Grin I'm kidding Choo, you know I love ya Wink I'm even gonna look for a picture for ya tomorrow, something that will make you smile cuz I know you're usually grumpy. Mad

And Miss S, my dear friend, I never seem to be here when you are (I'll email you tomorrow, promise) Hope things are going well with you...Got any extra brownies? I'm hungry Big Grin Wink

N, your avi should fit, it's the ame size as mine (I think) did you try yet?

Well g'night everyone...hope someone is around tomorrow.
Howdy N -- So sorry Amigo(a?)... I didn't realize you were wanting to use that avi. I guess I thought you were still looking for something more 'tentative' Big Grin . Just replace your current avi with the turtle (size shouldn't be a problem). Just in case you're unsure about doing that..here's how:
First: nav to your images area & copy the img URL into your clipboard (sugg: put your avi into it's own folder & never move it!)
Then nav back here and click-thru the following:
go -> personal_zone -> profile -> view_edit_complete -> edit(avatar/pictureURL) -> custom_avatar -> [paste avi-image URL] -> update_avatar
Hope that helps! Smile Cool
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Originally posted by ~Zebra~:
Howdy N -- So sorry Amigo(a?)... I didn't realize you were wanting to use that avi. I guess I thought you were still looking for something more 'tentative' Big Grin . Just replace your current avi with the turtle (size shouldn't be a problem). Just in case you're unsure about doing that..here's how:
First: nav to your images area & copy the img URL into your clipboard (sugg: put your avi into it's own folder & never move it!)
Then nav back here and click-thru the following:
go -> personal_zone -> profile -> view_edit_complete -> edit(avatar/pictureURL) -> custom_avatar -> [paste avi-image URL] -> update_avatar
Hope that helps! Smile Cool
No problemo!
I will try it again....that's what I thought I did a couple of times...may have missed a step!
N -- oops! Not sure what happened but your avi's gone now. This is just a guess but...
When ' selecting ' the URL to 'copy' (use <ctrl>-C ) into the clipboard...be careful to highlight the img-URL starting Only from the 'http:' specifier. In other words.. highlight & copy the string similar to this: [ http://img.auctiva................ .gif ] and watch that you don't accidentally include any spaces or other chars preceding the [ http:// ] part.
Smile
Eek G'morning everyone,
I just had to bump 'our' thread to the top again. I found another pic of Choo before he's had his yearly haircut and root canals (oh he's gonna kill me) Big Grin



(Thank you Thurston) Smile Our Auctiva member Thurston has an emotopic website...some funny stuff.

N, I don't know what everyone else sells, but Choo sells sexy mens thongs in neon colors Big Grin Eek Big Grin
Weel I'll go 't bottm of oure stairs Eek

With a low key UK site I am getting first page entries on a UK Google search on two of my items whereas my closed greedbay store still has an entry about 14 pages down a Jeeves (Ask.co) search. About normal from what I remember, not bad considering I have only been with this other site for a month and I closed my greedbay store before the end of November last year.

The greedbay hit was based on meta tags (the buried information picked by by search engine) that you can enter when 'editing' your store.

Just how invisible is a greedbay store, anyone else find their store or SIF items show up well on Google or any other engines ?

After all Google is as much a household name in search engines as greedbay and Hoover in their fields so that is rather a good start especially as it costs nothing until a sale occurs !!

Gotta get me a domain name, that needs creativity to think of an unused relevant name, now where did I put my creativity . . . Roll Eyes
Hey there Choo,

You're certainly not using up all your creativity on me, I always expect much more retaliation than I actually get Big Grin
("that would not be good enough") Roll Eyes

Seriously tho, you're lucky that whatever you sell can be put on other sites...my stuff that's been on 2 other sites for over a week now has only had 5 views Frown If it were on ebay right now it would have already sold for much more than I expected with a few hundred views total. Sigh...guess I'm stuck on ebay for awhile yet.

Would you like ME to help you with a domain name, hmmm??? Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin
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I always expect much more retaliation than I actually get

I am a gentleman and would not treat a lady as bad as you deserve . . . . hmmm, is there a flaw in that statement starting about la.. Razz

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Would you like ME to help you with a domain name, hmmm???

You gotta be kiddin' you'd get me kicked off the internet let alone an auction site Eek

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If it were on ebay right now it would have already sold for much more than I expected with a few hundred views total. Sigh...guess I'm stuck on ebay for awhile yet.

Sounds like you have two options, diversify starting with that crate load of goodies I sent you or set up a website, even just one page to use purely as search engine bait which is what I think I will try for first. Then develop it for actual selling in it's own right. On your own web page you could link to any online sites you are actively listing on.

A further option is to include flyers in your goods sold on greedbay with links to the other sites or even send out custom e-mail dispatch notes with hyperlinks Wink

So keep nominal sales on greedbay to farm buyers, seen that mentioned on one of these boards recently. Trouble is if view rates are low virtually need to BIN rather than auction Smile

ZZZZZ time 'til tomorrow's pick on poor little choo session Eek
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diversify starting with that crate load of goodies I sent you

I don't see how a crateful of inflateble dolls will help me Big Grin But thanks, I like the fact than they're both male and female...some from your own collection perhaps???? Big Grin

Oh, there won't be a ""pick on poor little Choo"" session til LATE tomorrow. (Lucky you, I won't be around during the day) Big Grin

I'll have to leave it up to Zebra, Taz, N, and any of the others.....c'mon folks I need a stand in Wink

Till tomorrow Choo Smile
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I'm lazy so I don't know if I would feel like learning all over again

For a one page search engine bait it is not learning all over again just learning more, strikes me that choosing a domain name and a decent site host are the most difficult parts, former needs creativty and the latter a touch of luck when unravelling the small print.

And please don't use the word 'lazy' in my presence I see Mad and turn off help mode. Wink
Hi ya'll. Smile

N, it should be on Go Daddy if that's where you purchased from. You could look on there to manage it and if not, I'd ask Auctiva to help you find it if you paid through here. Confused

Somethin' back there 'bout no spyder lookin' for th' fly... I'm not chasin' 'im any more... playin' hard to get!! Big GrinBig Grin (Hi there Ninth Wink)
Countin' on th' sweet cookie aroma to lure 'im on in closer... & closer... Oh, & there's a new special brew waftin' thru th' air too. Razz

Miss M, I promise to email you real soon. Wink Big Grin

Choo, I have my domain... think I got a goodun. Now please, what exactly is the best thing to do with it do ya think? I'm okay with HTML, know some about SEO and meta tags and all that. I want to get an appropriate logo and all going. Just seem to be kinda stuck after the purchase even tho' I've done it before. Roll Eyes

Hey Zeb & Taz. Smile Anyone heard from Pete? What happened to Jeff S & kbalona postin' here? Hmmm???
Ms S, I don't know how to even go there. But I believe I will try it very soon.
You know ALOT about this stuff, I can tell by yer techy talk. I luv it when people talk techy! Eek

So I just go lookin for it huh? Yep good idea. I have a place called an Auctiva Store and seems to have my listings so I figure that IF I can get to my website then add my store then I'll be danged proud! I know about ubb code than html.....but I'll figure it out....been procrastination cause I have so many more listin's to do.... Roll Eyes And ebay was a learnin' curve, then Auctiva, now a website. Never seems like it will end.
I kinda like these forums that has the software all set up and I can just sit around and mod and tell people what they can do!!! Big Grin
I saw one person on ebay whilst browsing with about 60 pages of their store.....can you believe that?
I guess no one talks about what theys a sellin huh? OK. I was just curious.....
is there a prohibition about it?
Like will the Auctive Cheifs come down and zap me?
I had almost forgotten about Pete, Jeff S, Kbalona et al.....I barely got to know them. I've only been around 2 mos now.

Well, I thought I'd check in cause I'm a listin' and seems like Ms eyes is always around at night complaining we aren't around. Guess I fooled her.
I like it that she thinks I am naive.... I am told I am naive, but I ain't stupid.......I could just see me makin' friend with a spider, a fly, a zebra, a Tas devil, and choo choo trains and not knowin' what the heck they are about; heck not me....OK nuf talk to myself. On with business.
Hi Shadeaux
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Now please, what exactly is the best thing to do with it do ya think?

Your are way ahead of me still got to decide on a host, domain name is hard enough, my first, aaah !

Really depends on how far you want to take it, the value of your wares (so that it is cost effective) and how much effort you want to put into it.

From what I have seen so far once you have bought your domain name the next hurdle is designing the site, the creative part Eek

As the UK site have opted for appears to have a high Google profile I am just looking at using it as a single page search engine bait whilst I sort out design. As much to stop the name being grabbed by someone else.

Design must reflect your intended customer base, what do they want, clear, bright, concise for silver surfers or super-flash and vibrant to attract teenagers.

Well that's my notes for the moment, still trying to work out what to put in blogs that would attract or direct buyers to my sales instead of boring them to go else where, hard work this advertsing lark Big Grin
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Is there any truth in the rumour that a spider has mistakenly a eaten a fly

*sniff* You might be right...maybe it's R.I.P. for the fly...if you notice, only one of the terrible twins has been posting here once in a great while (Hi Miss S) Smile

Nope, NO idea where everyone else is...kind of ODD about Pete tho, isn't it? I seriously hope he's OK, it's been way too long..

Oh, and I noticed you didn't ask where I was, thanks alot Razz Razz Big Grin
You DO know I was teasing you right??
(As usual)
In fact I was looking for another pic to post, I know how much you love those Big Grin but I can't seem to decide on one. Hmmmm, I'll have to keep looking. And I almost forgot - I owe you a package after you so graciously sent me all of your blow up dolls Big Grin Big Grin Now what can I send you????????? I'll have to think on this one for awhile...to bad my freezer rats are gone Big Grin

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